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Oreb Wing
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Posted - 2016.05.08 15:52:05 -
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Something inevitable, I'm afraid. It was a ticking time bomb. You can't expect to be blue with an ancient Galmil enemy, who consistently interferes with militia operations in the warzone and poaches the best pilots from their 'allies', and remain neutral. Inaction, or any hands-off approach to future conflicts, are --and have been-- a statement by itself. It's difficult to see that RDRAW and their militia friends have brought the tribalism viewpoints and policies from the Republic into the Federation. We'll see how this pans out. It isn't a second civil war, it is a branch of the stump of the minnie civil war. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.05.10 02:49:16 -
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Oreb will share his most awesome of overviews with you nubs. I did not have to change a thing because it was perfected the first time! ::crosses arms::
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Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.05.10 16:55:37 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:I am offering anger management classes to all Gallente effected by this disaster of internal relations. I understand at times like this the Gallente are not able to style their hair - that they end up with frayed knots and other such issues. We at Blackrise Vanguard seek to help you through these stressful times .
Every session with us will you get you a free styling. The second session will cost you 120 IS - But you will come out looking stronger, better and faster. You will be - "Caldari".
Do you have any wigs? |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.05.11 03:56:56 -
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Mabego Tetrimon wrote:http://i.imgur.com/FodlVFj.png current war....not so much happening. for all the words ;) 
Their kills sure have a ways to go if they wish to remain consistent. How can such a 'one-sided' war break so evenly or activity be so disrupted by so few?
http://imgur.com/1oslQDe
You do not need to be under the wing of anyone, and all factions should strive to be sovereign within their own backyards. In my opinion, that is what this war is about. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.05.11 06:50:50 -
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Paxx Mandragoran wrote:I love how Roy tries to be all sanctimonious about what a great transgression it is to team up with an "enemy of the gallente militia" and talks about how they fought so hard against the Caldari and that our dealings with Snuff somehow cheapens that... and yet they do this. http://imgur.com/Xjl7HMrSit outside our station in a happy mixed fleet with Caldari militia pilots.
This proves how disconnected you are to the entire FW idea. When null sec entities would come down into FW space in the past, often -- even during the middle of a fist fight -- a ceasefire is called to oust non-fw groups out of this space. Because it's FW space, plain and simple. How disjointed. You are full of justifications yourselves for what is really a truce with snuff that displaced your fear of snuff. "But they give us money!" What you are getting is crumbs and you can do much better. Gallente honor their cease-fires until non-FW entities are dealt with, then a lull of time permitted before we resume shooting each others faces. I can't say the same for Snuff.
3 years of stale diplomacy you say. I do remember the time RDRAW filled in and took residence in Fliet, along with Aideron Robotics. You had your own comms. Aider had their own comms. Gailmil pilots (I was one among many) that tried to swing between them all. There was never really a problem. Lack of integration or interrelationship forming was leadership from many corporations censoring or prohibiting hopping comms because pilots were too sensitive to criticism. What a damn shame. I do remember too the Oto and Has campaign, which RDRAW began and were the first to give up on. Yet you still think you've done everything on your own. That was the beginning of the bitterness in many. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.05.17 02:56:15 -
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X Gallentius wrote:There were potential goons to kill: Militia > Pirates > 0.0
^^ This entire event, much like the overview tweeks many had to make for this war, is an attempt to un**** RDRAW's priorities.
Working as a cohesive force is not possible with how often we've run into the problem with the conflict of interest that leads to action or non-action. We can't have any our logi/dps pilots suddenly back down or stand by to watch the confrontation when those pilots were factored in to our force projection estimates. I can't count on a single hand how many times FC's had to verify pirate/neutral identities before a standoff, because we had RDRAW members in fleet. How many times we would ship up and be confused as to what exactly to do with an RDRAW pilot during escalations. And I don't even play every day!
We can't really be "brothers" as RDRAW claims, if they are willing to stand by and watch a confrontation that could be very different for all concerned when there is no doubt about anyone's allegiances. The militia basically acts as an alliance fundamentally. You should acknowledge this simple fact and act accordingly.
As it is heard In our most hallowed and glorious songs in the militia: Un**** your overviews.
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Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.05.17 20:42:21 -
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They can do what they want. It has lead to this. We've had some very entertaining engagements.
These aren't justifications, but a reasonable argument to expectations in what one would find necessary to achieve unity and the removal of what would hinder our true potential.
When there's leadership that pretends to give less than two *****, eventually that impartiality is going to get stretched and tested. That is the nature of many people who love testing the dedication of superiors by their own ambitions. And we have already seen the first liberty taken. The second will surely follow when it is said among those with influence that those above don't care, thus need not be consulted.
Are these observations unsound? |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.06.15 15:59:58 -
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It confuses me to hear a person justify attacking a war asset, admit that it is ultimately a general militia asset, complain that it didn't have to happen of the war wasn't going, and declare that we should drop the petty war dec to return to fighting our common enemy.
What part of snuff being, has been, and will be a common enemy don't you fellas understand? Also, I do remember losing a Guardian as a neutral party in this war after getting blapped by nightmares while I was out of cap. I wonder why that is. Though I'm sure you think it has nothing to do with your meddling. If you had attacked and made the Citadel vulnerable yourselves it would be different, but you join in like vultures to the carcasses of 'allies' that should get over themselves.
Wow, man. You really see things clearly! |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.06.17 15:48:10 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Lets remember gents, bias is a two way street.
And seeing everything as shades of grey means it doesn't matter what direction you go on any street.
RDRAW's hesitation to assist galmil operations in WZ related hostilities at the beginning of this conflict of interest flies in the face in their willingness--dare I say even smug--participation in aggression against militia pilots.
If we dissect the particular details of each case, the counter arguments of about apples and oranges begins to fall apart.
The kind of aggression one is willing to take part in or refuse tells the story better than I could, and says much more. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.06.18 01:26:38 -
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If there's truth in it, it's a fact, is how I see opinions.
I believe history is on my side, and that we are not exactly debating a difference in taste, but a conviction of choices clearly taken. Betrayal and compromise are not ice cream flavors or a favorite color. Last time I checked. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.06.18 05:10:45 -
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I don't need a philosopher or a politician to interpret where a man stands during a fight. He's either with me or against me. If he's not capable of fighting, let him stand back out of the way of those who will. If he is capable, but unwilling, who can ever call such a one brother? Of all his deeds, he will be remembered for the worst.
The rest of my brothers fight with me, whether the odds are in our favor or not. Together we eat and bleed and laugh. There is no question who they would fight with when the fire sweeps through and the war horn blows.
That is my opinion. I feel entitled only to what my words and actions bring me. May false friends be far from me. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.06.23 14:47:59 -
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This is all balls. We could have taken full warzone control without too much effort for a 3rd time before Minmil if we had never experienced this divide. It wouldn't be a bad thing to add some pressure even now so that CCP might install some automated medal system that is based off of iHub bash statistics within a certain period of time or minimum % of damage done. Something. But oh well, a civil war is what we got instead. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.06.23 22:06:24 -
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They will break soon; you can't deny the Minnies their medal. They will mutiny. #rustyshanks
Warzone control is endgame for FW. The medal is the loot drop.
Perhaps it deserves its own thread, but iHub's destroyed in within the last 6 months and 2-3% dps minimum on any one of these as eligibility for medal is simple and straightforward. |
Oreb Wing
Moira.
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Posted - 2016.06.25 16:02:00 -
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A lot of folks pointing out that the temp blue with non-militia as an inconsistent and hypocritical action on our part, but you're still shaking the can and fail to see the differences if you let the details settle and be honest about it. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' kind of temp blueing has been around for a long while.
The RDRAW situation is comparable to eating you ***damn hand when your starved for content. That is the problem. And it is a problem. You dudes are still in the self -denial stage. |
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